ລັດຖະມົນຕີ ປ້ອງກັນປະເທດຢູເຄຣນ ທ່ານໂອເລັກຊີ ເຣສນິກັອຟ (Oleksiy Reznikov) ກ່າວວ່າ ຈຸດໝາຍປະເທດຂອງທ່ານ ຢູ່ໃນການຂັດແຍ້ງ ກັບຣັດເຊຍ ໃນປັດຈຸບັນນີ້ ແມ່ນໄຊຊະນະຢ່າງຄົບຖ້ວນແລະການຟື້ນຟູເຂດຊາຍແດນ ຂອງຢູເຄຣນໃນປີ 1991. ທ່ານໄດ້ໃຫ້ສຳພາດໃນອາທິດນີ້ຕໍ່ນັກຂ່າວ Ruslan Petrychka ຂອງ VOA ພະແນກພາສາຢູເຄຣນ ກ່ຽວກັບເຫດການຕ່າງໆ ຢູ່ໃນປະເທດຂອງທ່ານ ນັບແຕ່ຣັດເຊຍໄດ້ເລີ້ມການຮຸກຮານມາເມື່ອຕົ້ນປີນີ້.
ວີໂອເອ ຖາມວ່າ: ຈຸດໝາຍຢ່າງໃດທີ່ທ່ານໄດ້ຕັ້ງໄວ້ສຳລັບຢູເຄຣນ ໃນສົງຄາມກັບຣັດເຊຍ?
ທ່ານເຣສນິກັອຟຕອບວ່າ: ແຜນການທົ່ວໄປຂອງຢູເຄຣນຄືການປົດປ່ອຍທັງໝົດດິນແດນທີ່ສະຫະພັນຣັດເຊຍເຂົ້າຢຶດຄອງແລະກັບຄືນສູ່ເຂດຊາຍແດນທີ່ສາກົນ ຮັບຮູ້ໃນປີ 1991. ບໍ່ແມ່ນ 2014,15. ບໍ່ແມ່ນວັນທີ 24 ກຸມພາ 2022. ຈຸດໝາຍທີ່ແທ້ຈິງນັ້ນກໍຄືໄຊຊະນະຂອງຢູເຄຣນ ແລະການຟື້ນຟູເຂດຊາຍແດນໃນປີ 1991. ນີ້ແມ່ນແຜນຫຼັກ.
ວີໂອເອ ຖາມວ່າ: ອີງຕາມການຊັ່ງຊາຂອງທ່ານແລ້ວ ມີກຳລັງສູ້ລົບຣັດເຊຍຫລາຍປານໃດ ທີ່ໄດ້ເຕົ້າໂຮມກຳລັງຢູ່ໃກ້ກັບຊາຍແດນຂອງຢູເຄຣນ ຫລືຢູ່ໃນເຂດຢຶດຄອງ?
ທ່ານເຣສນິກັອຟ ຕອບວ່າ: ຂ້າພະເຈົ້າອາດຜິດພາດ ແຕ່ວ່າອີງຕາມລາຍງານທາງທະຫານເທື່ອຫລ້າສຸດ ປາກົດວ່າມີປະມານ 115 ອັນທີ່ຮ້ອງວ່າ ກອງພັນກົນລະຍຸດ ຊຶ່ງ 105 ກອງພັນສູ້ລົບໄດ້ຖືກສົ່ງເຂົ້າມາປະຕິບັດງານ ແລະ 10 ກອງພັນຢູ່ໃນການສັບປ່ຽນເພື່ອກະຕຽມຫລືພັກຜ່ອນ. ໃນຈຳນວນນີ້ ມີຢູ່ເຖິງ 135,000 ຄົນ.
ວີໂອເອ ຖາມວ່າ: ອຸບປະກອນໃໝ່ຂອງທະຫານ ທ່ານຄາດວ່າຈະໄດ້ຮັບຈາກສະຫະລັດ ແລະບັນດາປະເທດຕາເວັນຕົກອື່ນໆບໍ?
ທ່ານເຣສນິກັອຟ ຕອບວ່າ: ແນ່ນອນພວກເຮົາຄາດຫວັງຈະໄດ້ຮັບການສະໜັບສະໜູນ ແລະການຊ່ວຍເຫລືອຈາກປະເທດພາຄີ. ພວກເຮົາຫວັງວ່າການຕັດສິນໃຈດ້ານການເມືອງ ຈະເຮັດ ເພື່ອໃຫ້ພວກເຮົາລະບົບຈະຫຼວດສະໜາມ ຫລື ATACMS ທີ່ຈະເຮັດໃຫ້ພວກເຮົາຍິງໃສ່ເປົ້າໜາຍ ທີ່ຢູ່ເຖິງ 300 ກິໂລແມັດອອກໄປ.
ວີໂອເອ ຖາມວ່າ: ທ່ານພໍໃຈກັບການຊ່ວຍເຫລືອເທື່ອຫລ້າສຸດ 1 ພັນລ້ານໂດລາ ແກ່ຢູ່ເຄຣນ ຈາກສະຫະລັດນັ້ນບໍ?
ທ່ານເຣສນິກັອຟ ຕອບວ່າ: ຂ້າພະເຈົ້າພໍໃຈທີ່ສຸດ ເພາະວ່າ ມັນມີລູກປືນໃຫຍ່ 155 ມມ ສຳລັບລະບົບປືນໃຫຍ່ທີ່ພວກເຮົາໄດ້ຮັບມາກ່ອນນັ້ນ. ມັນຍັງຈຳນວນສຳຄັນຂອງລູກສອນໄຟ HIMARS ຊຶ່ງເປັນລະບົບລູກສອນໄຟເຄື່ອນທີ່. ນອກນັ້ນຍັງມີລູກສອນໄຟ ທີ່ເຮັດໃຫ້ທະຫານພວກເຮົາສາມາດທຳລາຍ ແລະເຮັດໃຫ້ເຣດາຂອງຣັດເຊຍໃຊ້ງານບໍ່ໄດ້.
ວີໂອເອ ຖາມວ່າ: ຢູເຄຣນໄດ້ເສຍຢູ່ໃນການສູ້ລົບຂອງລະບົບ HIMARS ທີ່ໄດ້ສົ່ງໃຫ້ແກ່ຢູເຄຣນ ຈາກສະຫະລັດນັ້ນບໍ?
ທ່ານເຣສນິກັອຟ ຕອບວ່າ: ຂ້າພະເຈົ້າສາມາດຢືນຢັນ ດ້ວຍຄວາມຮັບຜິດຊອບໄດ້ຢ່າງແທ້ຈິງວ່າ ບໍ່ໄດ້ສູນເສຍລະບົບ HIMARS ແມ່ນແຕ່ອັນດຽວ. ເພາສະນັ້ນເວລາທ່ານອ່ານສື່ມວນຊົນຣັດເຊຍ ຫລືລະບົບສື່ສັງຄົມ ກ່ຽວກັບທະຫານຄົນນຶ່ງ Ivanov ກັບ Kalashninov ຄົນນຶ່ງ ທີ່ບຸກເຂົ້າໄປໃນລົດບັນທຸກ ບ່ອນທີ່ລາວໄດ້ທຳລາຍລະບົບ HIMARS ອັນ” ທີ່ທ່ານສາມາດເຮັດໄດ້ ກໍຄືຫົວຂວັນ ແກວ່ງຫົວ ແລະກ່າວວ່າ “ດີລະ ນີ້ແມ່ນພຽງລະບົບເຂົາ ລະບົບໂຄສະນາຊວນເຊື່ອຂອງເຂົາ ມັນບໍ່ເປັນເລື້ອງເປັນລາວຫຍັງໝົດ.
Ukrainian Defense Minister Oleksiy Reznikov said his country’s goal in the current conflict with Russia is complete victory and the restoration of Ukraine’s borders as of 1991. He spoke this week with VOA Ukrainian Service’s Ruslan Petrychka about developments in the country since Russia’s invasion earlier this year.
VOA: What goal do you set for Ukraine in the war with Russia?
Reznikov: The all-Ukrainian plan is the complete de-occupation of the territories occupied by the Russian Federation and return to the internationally recognized borders as of 1991. Not 2014, ’15. Not February 24, 2022. The ultimate goal is the victory of Ukraine and its restoration within its borders as of 1991. This is the main plan.
The “cool-down” of the military situation is possible. I do not see a possibility of “freezing” — what people tend to call a conflict — because it is not a conflict. It is a war. This is an open war between two regular armies, and one army invaded the territory of its neighbor without any legitimate explanation or right to do so. Therefore, this war is for survival. We will be defending ourselves to survive.
VOA: Per your assessment, how many combat-ready troops have Russian forces assembled near Ukraine’s borders or in the occupied territories?
Reznikov: I may be wrong, but according to the latest military reports, there seems to be about 115 so-called battalion-tactical groups, of which 105 are actively deployed, and 10 are on rotation for replenishment or rest. In sum, there are up to 135,000 people.
VOA: What new military equipment do you expect to receive from the United States and other Western countries?
Reznikov: We are certainly expecting support and assistance from our partners. We are hopeful that a political decision will be made to give us [an] ATACMS [Army Tactical Missile System] that would allow us to hit targets up to 300 km away. This would also allow us to preserve more lives of our soldiers — men and women — and inflict very successful damage. We are hopeful to finally receive Western planes that would allow us to dominate the sky due to their better radars, range, maneuverability and speed. And of course, receiving tanks would also give us an advantage. Today, the modern world can easily provide us with technology to assure our victory and compensate for the imbalance in manpower [between Russia and Ukraine].
VOA: Are you satisfied with the latest $1 billion assistance package to Ukraine from the U.S.?
Reznikov: I am very pleased, because it contains many 155 mm ammunition for the artillery systems that we have received before. It also contains quite a significant number of missiles for HIMARS [High Mobility Artillery Rocket System]. Also, missiles that allow our military to destroy and blind Russian radars. It helps us weaken their air defense system and therefore act more decisively. Hence, we are very satisfied with the assistance package. This is a tremendous help. And I will repeat once again that I hope that a political decision regarding the ATACMS missiles will soon be made. The HIMARS have changed our battlefield strategies significantly, therefore the ATACMS will be a great addition to benefit Ukraine and the civilized world.
VOA: Has Ukraine lost in battle any of the HIMARS systems delivered to Ukraine by the U.S. so far?
Reznikov: I can confirm with absolute responsibility that not a single HIMARS was lost. Therefore, when you read Russian mass media or social networks about “a soldier Ivanov with a Kalashnikov breaking into a truck where he destroyed 12 HIMARS” — all you can do is laugh, shake your head and say, “Well, this is simply their system of propaganda.” It's total nonsense.
